Questions: Spite, Amendments, Nomic, Favor-Trading - General

March 5

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Tobias Klausmann <klausman@schwarzvogel.de> on 2016-07-30 16:24:21 wrote:

The thing I would worry about as a debtor here is that my debt being transferred to someone who has a more /agressive/ style of debt collecting. I may have gotten my debt with someone I can tell that a missed payment is an accident, whereas the new creditor is someone who gets payment /in the flesh./

Citizens rights and all that aside, contracts are notoriously counter-intuitive and I should not have to pay some AI (or similar) just so I can sign a contract in good faith.

“Well, don’t be so dumb to sign that.” is a very darwinist approach to contract law.

Alistair Young <athanasius.skytower@arkane-systems.net> on 2016-07-31 03:29:09 wrote:

Contracts are like that here, because they’re attempting to compensate for arbitrary amounts of precedential and regulatory bafflegab and mostly the province of lawyers (who love to complicate things to justify their hourly rates); most of the ones regular people ever see are those provided to them by employers and finance companies which they end up signing without reading anyway; and no-one teaches anyone anything about them. Most people couldn’t even name the three elements of a contract if asked.

[I remember when I got my first corporate job back in the UK just how shocked, shocked they were to discover that I actually wanted to read my employment contract before signing it. Actually negotiating one of the clauses practically blew minds left and right.]

In a world in which the law is (necessarily) kept small enough that non-ignorance of it is possible, in which the legal system is infamous for its intolerance for bullshit, and in which Contracts 101 is a middle-school-equivalent course, they’re pretty damn intuitive. At least so far as the locals are concerned.

Tobias Klausmann <klausman@schwarzvogel.de> on 2016-07-31 04:54:48 wrote:

Ah, that makes sense. Though It has a slight ring of utopia