# Are you one of those dangerous TESCREAL people? **URL:** \ **Category:** FAQ\ **Created:** [January 30, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387 "2025-01-30T03:37:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/avatar/32/2_2.png) [@avatar](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387/1 "2025-01-30T03:37:34Z")
You’re goddamn right I am. **Then how do you respond to Timnit Gebru’s and Emile Torres’s critique of…** I recognize that they have made a critique, but given that it’s a stupid-ass critique, I have elected to ignore it. ---
**Author:** ![ahd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/ahd/32/70_2.png) [@ahd](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/ahd)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 12:42am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387/2 "2025-01-31T00:42:23Z")
For those in the peanut gallery who thankfully have a life and have never heard of Gebru and Torres: > **TESCREAL** is an [acronym](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym) [neologism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism) proposed by computer scientist [Timnit Gebru](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timnit_Gebru) and philosopher [Émile P. Torres](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89mile_P._Torres) that stands for “[transhumanism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism), [Extropianism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extropianism), [singularitarianism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularitarianism), (modern) [cosmism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_de_Garis#Cosmism), [Rationalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LessWrong), [Effective Altruism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_altruism), and [longtermism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longtermism)”.[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL#cite_note-:0-1)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL#cite_note-2) Gebru and Torres argue that these ideologies should be treated as an “interconnected and overlapping” group with shared origins.[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL#cite_note-:0-1) They say this is a movement that allows its proponents to use the threat of [human extinction](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_extinction) to justify expensive or detrimental projects and consider it pervasive in social and academic circles in [Silicon Valley](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley) centered around [artificial intelligence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence).[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL#cite_note-dig1-3) As such, the acronym is sometimes used to criticize a perceived belief system associated with [Big Tech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Tech). ([TESCREAL - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL)) As far as I know, @avatar does not in any sense count as Big Tech; in and of himself he, like me, counts as very very Smol Tech. ---
**Author:** ![doctorcatfish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/doctorcatfish/32/141_2.png) [@doctorcatfish](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/doctorcatfish)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387/3 "2025-01-31T16:15:32Z")
I think re-appropriation of one of @avatar 's recent comments is applicable here to describe my opinion of Terran techbro TESCREAL: > “Good bones. Sound principles. That is very much to their credit. It’s a shame the implementation absolutely shits the bed, but I suppose we can’t have everything.” Rationalist enlightened self-interest might pause at trying to achieve a high-liberty future with methods that start as _ **closer** _ to _korasan_ behavior, but why stop to think about such? ---
**Author:** ![avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/avatar/32/2_2.png) [@avatar](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387/4 "2025-01-31T20:16:19Z")
As someone who is exactly one crushing of enemies, driving before me, and lamentation-hearing behind on his kinetic ethical obligations, I decline to comment. ---
**Author:** ![avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/avatar/32/2_2.png) [@avatar](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387/5 "2025-01-31T20:57:15Z")
I AM THE BIGGEST TECH! …nah, not really. But I am an enthusiast for Big Tech, and indeed Tech of All Sizes. Techno-utopianism, ho! (Hell, I was into transhumanism and extropianism before most of the world heard of them. And rationalism, for that matter, before the modern movement made it all _popular_.) ((For those looking for evidence of this in my works, the search term you want is _technepraxic_.)) ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Kenny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/scott_kenny/32/226_2.png) [@Scott\_Kenny](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/Scott_Kenny)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:17am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387/6 "2025-02-05T04:17:20Z")
With any luck, the Foolish Bureau of Idiots that accosted you and yours will be thrown out on their ear shortly… Which should reduce your Conanist ethical dilemmas. ---
**Author:** ![doctorcatfish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/doctorcatfish/32/141_2.png) [@doctorcatfish](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/doctorcatfish)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2025, 6:55pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387/7 "2025-11-02T18:55:29Z")
Follow-up: they were replaced with even **more** foolish ones. _You can’t even Default without screwing yourself seven different ways at once ?!_ ---
**Author:** ![avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/avatar/32/2_2.png) [@avatar](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/avatar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/are-you-one-of-those-dangerous-tescreal-people/3387/8 "2025-11-02T22:01:38Z")
To hark once more to an oft-repeated theme of mine, adding politics to anything is an even better way to turn it to pure shit than passing it through one’s digestive system.