# Eldraeic Phrase of the Day: Tramézashíël Eslévár **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [November 1, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/eldraeic-phrase-of-the-day-tramezashiel-eslevar/1107 "2024-11-01T11:31:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
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**el tramézashíël eslévár (n.):** Empire of the Star; the largest and oldest eldraeic polity. Broken up, this phrase reads: _tra_ (DESCRIPTION OPERATOR) – _méz_ (METAPHORIZATION OPERATOR) – _ashíël_ (star) — _eslév_ (empire) – _ár_ (PREDICATION OPERATOR), which is to say in long-gloss, _“the empire which is like unto a (metaphorical) star”_. Replacing this with the English “of” is acceptably inaccurate for such an imprecise target language. It should also be noted that _eslév_ is linguistically unique, appearing only in this phrase (and abbreviations thereof: _el eslév_ unambiguously refers to “_the_ Empire”). It is not used to represent any of the other possible meanings of “empire”; the technical meaning of a union of multiple peripheral polities beneath one metropole, for example, is _el vielmóniramóníë_ (loosely, “a commanding country-of-countries”)_._ It has no strict root-based etymology; rather, _eslév_ is a nonce coined for its conceptual resonances: it resembles, for example, proto-Cestian words for “created” or “our creation”; Selenarian terms for “lunar crescent”; various Silver Crescent words with meanings approximating to “celestial”; a Veranthyran term meaning “propriety” or “high culture”, and so on and so forth. * * * This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at [https://eldraeverse.com/2018/06/15/eldraeic-phrase-of-the-day-tramezashiel-eslevar](https://eldraeverse.com/2018/06/15/eldraeic-phrase-of-the-day-tramezashiel-eslevar) ---
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**Comments migrated from WordPress:** > [@R.C. \ on 2018-06-16 07:18:21 wrote](#): > > Would ‘The Starlike Empire’ be an acceptable alternate translation? > > > [@Alistair Young \ on 2018-06-19 20:51:20 wrote](#): > > > > Kinda clunky, which is why the translation team probably wouldn’t pick it. “Starry Empire”, maybe. > > > > (Or you could go with an alternate name and go with “Bright Empire”, the literal translation of _trasúnar eslévár_.) > [@Mark Atwood \ on 2018-06-17 22:27:59 wrote](#): > > Well, IIRC, they are sometimes called the “Shiny”, originally from a botched translation, and then a term of mild insult, though I can see the ones with outland experience and a self of humor proudly taking the name for themselves. > > Probably has overtones of “you had better be smiling when you call me that”. > [@Specialist290 \ on 2018-06-17 22:49:12 wrote](#): > > If you stack two metaphorization operators within the same word or phrase, does that make it a metametaphor 😛 ---
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