# Force Not Required

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**Created:** [May 6, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/force-not-required/325 "2021-05-06T06:27:21Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/force-not-required/325/1 "2021-05-06T06:27:22Z")

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Originally published at: [Force Not Required | The Eldraeverse](https://eldraeverse.com/2021/05/06/force-not-required/)  
   
“Always remember: memetics is no more and no less than the science of ideas. Applied memetics, therefore, is no more and no less than advanced persuasion. Memetics cannot impose ways of thought. Memetics alone cannot correct biases, or determine truth, or override the will. And no memetic technology can force someone to believe anything.” – The Iron Rule of Memetics, Acad. Lí Amarens “Holy fire-spitting crapsticks, is there anything these morons won’t believe?” – Alseyn’s Corollary

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**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Crichton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Maximilian\_Crichton](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/Maximilian_Crichton)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/force-not-required/325/2 "2021-05-06T09:03:23Z")

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I remember you saying that in situations such as these, Eldrae choose to believe in the best in people; the worst thing that could happen in that scenario is that they are let down or betrayed.

Methinks memeticists must be very very VERY experienced with handling disappointment.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/force-not-required/325/3 "2021-05-06T14:28:31Z")

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“Sometimes, all you get to choose is who you are going to be disappointed by. Try and not let it be _yourself_.”

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**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Crichton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Maximilian\_Crichton](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/Maximilian_Crichton)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/force-not-required/325/4 "2021-05-06T14:31:30Z")

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Got some work to do on that one, that.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 5:02am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/force-not-required/325/5 "2021-06-30T05:02:33Z")

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You know, I happened across this comment again today while mass-archiving my old e-mail, and in the same batch I came across this article:

[Your Book Review: Humankind - Astral Codex Ten (substack.com)](https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/your-book-review-humankind?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMzk5NDc1OCwicG9zdF9pZCI6MzY4OTQyMjcsIl8iOiJhTEc4MiIsImlhdCI6MTYyNTAyOTEwMCwiZXhwIjoxNjI1MDMyNzAwLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItODkxMjAiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.jtMGv1xYDL1_GqQ4-LAsqd7I4R245L901KqcWr0_rgQ)

How amusing it is that the dark and terrible secret behind the Empire’s success turns out to be… being _nice_.

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**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Crichton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Maximilian\_Crichton](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/Maximilian_Crichton)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 10:11am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/force-not-required/325/6 "2021-07-05T10:11:37Z")

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Dammit man now I have an unaccounted 30 mins to explain for. 😛