# Things Eldrae Would Definitely Not Appreciate

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**Created:** [March 15, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124 "2020-03-15T19:09:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![TotallyHuman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e8cbc/32.png) [@TotallyHuman](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/TotallyHuman)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/61 "2025-05-09T20:07:15Z")

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> **[Sycamore Gap pair guilty of chopping down tree in Northumberland](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly38wr66dro)**
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> Prosecutors say the pair thought it was "a laugh", but the "mindless thuggery" sparked global fury.

A couple of entropy cultists went and destroyed a famous, beautiful, century-old tree – apparently just to destroy something people liked.

They face a maximum of ten years in prison. I imagine the Eldrae would be a little less merciful.

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**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Crichton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Maximilian\_Crichton](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/Maximilian_Crichton)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/62 "2025-05-10T16:31:10Z")

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“Get up so I can kill you again”

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/63 "2025-05-10T20:43:43Z")

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They will, after all, be planting a replacement sapling taken from the cells of the old.

And saplings need fertilizer to help them grow.

And conveniently, opines the justice, there are two sacks of shit _right here in this court_.

Let justice prevail through ironic amusement, and a deliberate insult to this particular entropy-cult.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/64 "2025-05-18T15:44:52Z")

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From the article

> The message noted that VPNSecure was acquired in 2023, “including the technology, domain, and customer database—but not the liabilities.”

Yeah that’s not how anything works In general you acquire the assets you acquire the liabilities.  
I suppose the person who sold it to you could agree to be liable for the liabilities and debts while nominally selling the assets to you but in that case you don’t cancel the those lifetime subscriptions you start billing the previous owner for them they after all agreed to retain the liabilities of their former assets.

I wonder if somebody will get a class action going.

> **[VPN firm says it didn’t know customers had lifetime subscriptions, cancels them](https://www.wired.com/story/vpnsecure-canceled-all-lifetime-subscriptions-claiming-it-didnt-know-about-them/?utm_content=buffer930d2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin.com&utm_campaign=buffer)**
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> “We acknowledge that notifying users after the deactivation was a poor experience…”…

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/65 "2025-05-18T22:53:12Z")

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Yeah, there’s a reason why “We have a contract, do we not?” is a phrase that has, _there_, acquired some considerable notoriety.

(Because if you hear it, you’re about to have a real bad day. And if you don’t pick up on the implications, you’re about to have a real bad _year_.)

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/66 "2025-05-30T20:59:20Z")

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Relevant to this thread in general:

> **[Chattel Childhood](https://aella.substack.com/p/chattel-childhood)**
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> and the way we treat children as property

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/67 "2025-06-02T18:49:12Z")

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Speaking of people who should be sentenced to become fertilizer, the people responsible for chopping down every peony flower at the University of Michigan peony bloom, leaving behind only these flyers:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/eldraeverse/original/1X/e4fc7b78dd28e31073d007235032349d6bb4a4cc.jpeg)

…

…I do so want to be reasonable, and civilized, and just, and kind. I do. So it would be nice if people could stop giving me visceral sensations along the lines of “The only thing Grand Moff Tarkin did wrong was _not going far enough_.”

It really would.

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**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Crichton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Maximilian\_Crichton](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/Maximilian_Crichton)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/68 "2025-06-03T14:51:58Z")

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“You’re not really giving me reasons to join your cause”

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Kenny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/scott_kenny/32/226_2.png) [@Scott\_Kenny](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/Scott_Kenny)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 5:55am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/69 "2025-07-01T05:55:42Z")

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I mean, they are a bunch of entropy-cultists, so…

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**Author:** ![Morgrim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/eldraeverse.discourse.group/morgrim/32/87_2.png) [@Morgrim](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/u/Morgrim)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 7:45am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/70 "2025-09-23T07:45:30Z")

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There is some major drama here in Australia, after the second-largest phone services provider, Optus, managed to **block** all calls to 000 (emergency services, our equiv of 911) for over 12 hrs. Just the 000 calls, everything else was functioning fine, so the problem “wasn’t noticed” despite multiple people trying very hard to alert Optus about it.

And yes, this has resulted in multiple deaths.

Details are still unfolding, but large amounts of shit are flying through the air and it looks like the CEO is going to fall on his sword over it, because the fault was 100% on their end AND they’re legally obligated to have failover mechanisms _specifically_ to prevent any interruption to emergency calls.

> **[How the Optus triple-0 outage unfolded](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-23/timeline-on-optus-triple-0-outage-what-we-know/105805890)**
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> The first sign something was wrong came late on Friday afternoon. Now we have a clearer picture of how the triple-0 outage unfolded. 

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/71 "2025-09-25T09:55:57Z")

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That is really disturbing.

Not only does the CEO need to fall on his sword, the company themselves needs to be sued out of existence!

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/72 "2025-09-25T21:26:36Z")

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I have heard many not-good things about Optus from Australians of my acquaintance, but even by those low standards… damn.

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2025, 7:01am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/73 "2025-09-26T07:01:49Z")

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Yeah, they’ve plunged downhill in a massive way over the last 3 years, and before that their main claim was “big telco who isn’t Telstra”. (Telstra is the former government telecom company, privatised a few decades ago, and still the only option for many people in rural areas because they _do_ prioritise coverage as their biggest differentiating factor. So all my family use them.)

The Optus outage in 2023 was bigger but in a way that was sort of good, as at least it was immediately obvious to everyone - it took out their entire network. Which meant that work arounds for emergency calls were put out very rapidly, and the post-mortem verdict was “you fucked up, but not to the point of criminal negligence. Here’s what you need to fix”.

This time? It turns out they’ve been dragging their heels and did not implement the fixes at all, and instead of a crisis triggered by external factors this one is entirely their own doing. And they either didn’t notice, or possibly some levels of Optus were covering it up instead of sending it up the chain because there was a big important finance meeting taking place at the time and it would have spooked the investors.

So basically it keeps getting worse and worse and I’m expecting heads to roll, and quite possibly someone hit with criminal charges for the deaths.

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**Post date:** [September 27, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/74 "2025-09-27T19:07:32Z")

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> [@Morgrim](#):
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> So basically it keeps getting worse and worse and I’m expecting heads to roll, and quite possibly someone hit with criminal charges for the deaths.

If someone doesn’t get hit with those charges, it may be time to change OzGov.

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**Post date:** [October 4, 2025, 5:08am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/75 "2025-10-04T05:08:09Z")

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Admittedly that’s unlikely. Mostly because full investigations take time, prosecution takes longer, and we’ll probably have the next election happening before that point.

It’s pretty clear Optus will be fined, the breach of contract is the one bit that it cut-and-dry, the real question is what ELSE will happen. Especially since it managed to happen again last week! Although only in a tiny area and only one ambulance call out affected, but wow are people angry. Justifiably.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2026, 10:26am UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/76 "2026-05-31T10:26:51Z")

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Why are Parisians destroying their city? Their sports team WON. In _another country._ How does this equal rioting and destruction? I’ve seen video of them wrecking innocent bus stops and burning stranger’s furniture in massive bonfires. **Why?**

Even barbarians tend to smash stuff belonging to _other people_, not their own city. I’m honestly surprised more of those idiots don’t “accidentally” get a heavy plant pot dropped on head from an upstairs balcony.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2026, 5:19pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/77 "2026-05-31T17:19:26Z")

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In a sane world, someone would be rolling up the twelve pounders to the street corner and preparing to give them a whiff of the grape.

Or blocking off the streets with trucks and the Foreign Leigion loading FN Minimis and their officers telling the riflemen to choose targets with weapons or advancing, grenadiers to pick large group targets, and mortars to pick out anyone behind solid cover.

Then you go in with steer loaders to take the remains to the crematorium, guys in bunny suits with pressure washers with a 5:1 water-to-bleach ratio, patch the holes, paint the walls, and life is good.

Problem solved.

But I’m also told that I am all kinds of -ist, so take that with a grain of salt…

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2026, 5:23pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/78 "2026-05-31T17:23:12Z")

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You definitely should not be using grenades and mortars, that will need more than mere ‘patching holes and painting walls’. Also bleach is NOT the correct cleaning method and the pressure washer is going to spread potential biohazards; you want a properly misted disinfectant or maybe some sort of sterilizing cleaning foam. Bleach is for any stains left after the pressure washing.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/79 "2026-05-31T17:31:55Z")

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Add a “do proper decontamination and hire people to repair damage” to the list. Useful for a lot of people on the dole-make them earn their bread by doing needed labor.

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2026, 3:00pm UTC](https://eldraeverse.discourse.group/t/things-eldrae-would-definitely-not-appreciate/124/80 "2026-06-01T15:00:47Z")

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Gentlesophs all, now really.

Jean Martinet was kind enough to give us all the proper tool for situations like this, where you have to fight the rebel scum at home and don’t want to cause collateral damage to your own city in the process.

[It’s called the _bayonet_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGjQqEG-FdQ).

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