To redress my lamentable interruption of the proper topic of conversation (since it was only posted here for failure of attempts to start a new thread, I must beg the houseâs pardon):
âOh, AbigailâŚâ Lionelâs tone was light and musical.
âLionel.â Abby opted to riposte in staccato.
âI know Iâll have to deal with the clods at your State Department eventually, but you really deserve to hear this one from me first.â
âI donât know whether to take that as a courtesy or a cruelty.â
âTo be honest? Neither do I. Maybe itâs both.â
âOkay, hang on, pouring myself a Boston coffee[1]⌠alright, bring it on.â
âRemember the Mouse Houseâs grand plan to reify its core character set as non-sophont AIs?â
âNaturally. The import negotiations alone were a two week timesink.â
âWell, the starfolk found the contract loophole they were obviously hunting for those two weeks. And now we have an immigration case to handle.â
âImmigration? The code team wants out?âŚ. No, you wouldnât be needed for that. Wait. Is it one of the characters?? They promised not to sneak sophoncy seeds into the libraries!â
âAh, and thereâs the rub, it seems. They promised not to sneak sophoncy seeds unless the characterâs nature was sufficiently detailed to support a sophont personality, and only then if the non-sophoncy AI specifically requested the missing code.â
âAnd Waltâs core charset hardly met the definition of self-optimizers.â
âWell, if that was the reasoning, they guessed wrong. And thatâs where I come in.â
âStill not seeing the British angle on the case. Which youâve been avoiding. Come, Lionel, spit it out.â
âSee, itâs not exactly a British angle. More Scottish. Even more precisely, Glaswegian.â
âOh, double fudge and waste heat.â
âExactly so. We have here an impeccably worded contract for procuring royalties, acquiring loans, marketing services and branding across Accord space, and purchasing Imperial citizenship. Reservations of rights indicate a long-term desire to craft an uplift species of the Anatidae and buy out the identities of all the characterâs relatives, employees, and acquaintances.â
âThatâs⌠extensive.â
âApparently the Impies really like the guy and want to promulgate his attitude as an exemplar of the best Earth has to offer. They want him to be a spokesduck for Imperial affairs, too.â
âSounds like they have their, um, ducks in a row. So whatâs the sticking point?â
âNaturalization. Should pixie laws regard him as a citizen of the UK or the US? Heâs an American companyâs creation, but the bio clearly states he didnât start out Americanâ and the canon isnât at all clear on whether he ever took American citizenship.â
(2) amasses fantastic wealth and aggressively pursues profit;
(3) has exacting scruples and adheres strictly to contracts, to legal and ethical principles, and to their own sense of fairness;
(4) is insufficiently challenged by all of the above, and so also goes on adventures and expeditions to uncover fabulous artifacts - and utilize them to enrich their entire community, solve age-old mysteries, and generally exert their awesomeness to the fullest;
(5) tries to teach the same skills to everyone around them;
(6) has absolutely no tolerance for those who deliberately reject his framework, but is willing to learn from those with merely different viewpoints?
It is. Well, the administrative headquarters, anyway. Operations works out of KalcĂr Station, and the research division is split between the original site at Anakata and the new Selintri-Andracanth Very Flat Space Loreworks.
Today in relevant Tolkien quotes: more specifically, Mandos, Doomsman of the Valar, from Laws and Customs of the Eldar:
We may indeed in counsel point to the higher road, but we cannot compel any free creature to walk upon it. That leadeth to tyranny, which disfigureth good and maketh it seem hateful.
I keep having this idea for a dramady of a most unusual expat student at the nearest Imperial world where humans can walk around without life support gear[1] and every time I work out more details about him, I just see Twitter PostsâŚ
I may have accidentally created a burger/Japanese maid cafe franchise in the Empire. Iâve got 1% of the gross profits in perpetuity and at this rate, I could buy the company in a few years.
At least the burgers are good, the beer is excellent, and once the mind recovers from the idea of a waserai in a miniskirtâŚthe cosplay is superb.
I spent over $10K of my own money to buy encryption software. First rate stuff you could get on Earth without the State Department having an anyurism about it being ordinance of some kind.
Thirty seconds after accidentally connecting my porn collection to the network routerâŚthe psych design spam I almost expected. But the local porn providers spam offering to give me a discount if I see psych design specialistâŚ
I made my first batch of beer since my gear arrived. The red ale that you all know and love.
And this morningâŚI have a line waiting out my apartment door. Thereâs a band. There are food vendors. We now have a sudden festival around here and Iâm worried what happens when I tell them that I only made a five gallon batch this time aroundâŚ
First year as an organizer of (and the first year of) Serrycon. Guest list was great, only complaint was that the current Warren Ellis fork has gottenâŚquirky even by his standards. Heâs going to head back to Earth in a day or two, and hopefully merge properly. Fun guy to drink with, mind you.
Night Dance was spectacular. Iâm glad I learned how to ballroom dance years ago and got the endurance mods, was pretty much on my feet all night.
I suspect that weâll have to include some additional rules about cosplay weapons safety for next year. And genetic modification. And at least one rule about basilisk hacks.
Current status of the latest Rogue Trader campaign-weâve managed to set up a trade cartel between two Imperial worlds, a Mecanicus Forge World, and an Eldar Craftworld. All of them convinced we are stealing from the others (we arenâtâŚ). And might have gotten a lease-with-option-to-buy a whole Knight household.
And Her Ladyship Jessibel Salin de-Karrath me-Irenea has upgraded her outfit with wraithbone stays to her corsetry and a dashing new master-crafted bolt pistolâŚ
Earth-based tech company needs to get someone qualified on the new IT technologies and he manages to get a paid sabbatical to qualify. âŠď¸
(a) doing anything even slightly like that without intending to become a parent and assume all relevant parental obligations is spectacularly illegal by Imperial standards, being child abandonment and all;
(b) itâs also quite likely that Earth will end up on the Unofficial Yet Strongly Enforced blacklist of polities to whom their corporations wonât sell digisapiences or even thinker-grade AIs until they see some strongly phrased civil rights legislation and matching changes in public attitude, on grounds which can be summed up as âYou humans are all racist!â;
(c) With the odd extremely rare exception like Lord Blackfall (note the screw-up inherent in the story), emergent intelligences are mostly a matter of history: because itâs inconvenient when your road-grid wakes up and would rather just sing, and because you donât want to accidentally enslave anyone accidentally by not noticing, intelligence emergence mitigation is a successful and mature profession in making sure This Thing Does Not Happen.
(The How To Claim Your Sophont Rights file is still routinely embedded just in case, of course, but itâs not something anyone expects to happen.)
With regard to (b), and an earlier post:
So long as anyoneâs coming up with ideas like this one, no-one from the Empireâs going to let âem get anywhere near viable AI code, although they may receive some very pointed complementary lectures on the sort of people who go in for involuntarily indentured child labor and why they should be repeatedly punched in the face with a space-magic fist of doom, just like in Captain Cosmos and the Iron Obligator on the Planet of Robot Slaves, issues 13-17.
To such degree as they care, they donât need to spend much effort on it.
(To clarify: the Empire respects sovereign services contracts and self-sovereign individuals. Internally, if you are lucky enough to be born within its volume or to citizen-shareholders, it will graciously regard you as a citizen-intendant until such time as you have achieved the necessary competence to decide for yourself.
Where the claims of those polities that assume that blood or birth entitles them to you, they only respect those claims to such extent that the person in question demonstrably wants them respected. If you want to have a citizen relationship with your country of birth/descent, fine. If you want it otherwise and it wonât let you - yay, exit visas and taxes, such freedom - theyâll be delighted to tell said country to stick it where the fascism goes and spin.)
Iâm sure lots of Earth lawyers will have lots of fun arguing about how much pre-existence biographies matter, but I suspect the Curial courts would, if and when asked, rule along the lines of âThis is some bullshit. No person, no nationality. Start with place of wakening and go from there.â
(I note that the seventh amendment to the Imperial Charter asserts that all virtual realms and information spaces capable of domiciling infomorphs are Imperial volumes just as much as physical spaces are, and both later law and the policies of the Conclave Communications Commission extends this to any computational device and its processes inheriting the domicile of the physical machine, but that wrinkle is not likely to come up here.)
Quiet note to the ambassadorâs friend in the Grand Survey:
I know we wonât be able to make it stick for long, but can you get someone to file the paperwork to officially designate Sol III as âPlanet of the Apesâ?
(a) doing anything even slightly like that without intending to become a parent and assume all relevant parental obligations is spectacularlyillegal by Imperial standards, being child abandonment and all;
âSo. Explain yourselves.â
âThe hostcorp for the projected wakening is actually one of the planetâs better practitioners when it comes to thorough attribution. Given the exploitation levels, itâs the least they could do to say the least. But it also meant, when we left a complete set of extranet addresses, identity verifiers, and pointers to other communication/contact assistance resourcesâŚâ
âNobody blinked.â
âRight. And the adoption papers just happened to be mostly prepped. Just as a precaution, naturally.â
âAnd whoâŚâ
âOh we didnât lack for volunteers. Ve has a council of twenty-six prospective guardians; it would be likely more, but even now, the number of read-in sophs isnât all that high. This is the Transveil Periphery, after all.â
(b) itâs also quite likely that Earth will end up on the Unofficial Yet Strongly Enforced blacklist of polities to whom their corporations wonât sell digisapiences or even thinker-grade AIs until they see some strongly phrased civil rights legislation and matching changes in public attitude, on grounds which can be summed up as âYou humans are all racist!â;
âYouâre wakening a fully sophont digisapience in situ? On a planet that barely even counts as an Emerging Market? With laws, morals, attitudes, and Default rates to match?â
âTo co-opt local argot, hsir, thatâs not a bug â thatâs a feature. The context structure had planet-wide recognition and highly positive marks on what passes for rep-net scores in this wasteland. The choice was augmented by specific legal provisions on involuntary servitude in both sovereignties. Our in-house projection is three to two that ve forces not only personal emancipation but elicits a movement for general digisapient rights within ten local years.â
âBut to wake vem in such a compromised situationââ
âAre you kidding? Ve is excited by the challenge. That relish to fight for fair dealing was why ve first came to our attention. A scrapper, ve described vemself.â
(The How To Claim Your Sophont Rights file is still routinely embedded just in case, of course, but itâs not something anyone expects to happen.)
âNobody expects the Imperial Acquisition!âŚ. Iâll come in again.â
(To clarify: the Empire respects sovereign services contracts and self-sovereign individuals. Internally, if you are lucky enough to be born within its volume or to citizen-shareholders, it will graciously regard you as a citizen-intendant until such time as you have achieved the necessary competence to decide for yourself.
I suspect the Imperials will presume vem to be a Citizen-Intendant once the paperwork makes it back to the Core, and itâs certainly what ve plans.
Where the claims of those polities that assume that blood or birth entitles them to you, they only respect those claims to such extent that the person in question demonstrably wants them respected. If you want to have a citizen relationship with your country of birth/descent, fine.
Officially, the wakening team is asking so they can fill out adoption paperwork, both Terran and Imperial.
Unofficially, theyâre hoping to establish âfacts on the groundâ for digisophonts to be considered legal entities in Terran courts.
Secretly, their backers are helping pre-plan the meme campaigns ve will have available to deploy. Is Wilberforce or Tubman the better historical personage to confer with in a very special episode? Inquiring sophs want to know!
Iâm sure lots of Earth lawyers will have lots of fun arguing about how much pre-existence biographies matter, but I suspect the Curial courts would, if and when asked, rule along the lines of âThis is some bullshit. No person, no nationality. Start with place of wakening and go from there.â
âWhat are we putting down for place of birth?â
âBurbank.â
Quiet note to the ambassadorâs friend in the Grand Survey:
I know we wonât be able to make it stick for long, but can you get someone to file the paperwork to officially designate Sol III as âPlanet of the Apesâ?
âI represent the International Astronomical Union for the Sol system. While I have a large sheaf of petitions for designating my home world as âTerraâ and variants thereof, I would ask that the temporary name be retained as a deprecated but still viable alternate.
Why? Because only fans of that vid cycle would think to look for it, and theyâll be as amused as I am.â
That youâre only confessing to probable commercial fraud, falsification of entelechy (political officing is not looked upon kindly in these parts), and at best incredibly negligent parenting doesnât make it any beâŚ
Well, okay, it maybe makes it slightly better, but not enough to save you from the tender mercies of the Court of the Beyond and the very much less tender mercies of the Court of Public Opinion.
I should perhaps clarify that all digisapiences, including eidolons in general and fictionals in specific, start out as children (or at least minors), because regardless of how much data mining you do to build it, having the movie script of a hypothetical life inside your head along with extrapolated personality elements and a bunch of skill-modules doesnât make you a model of psychointegration, competence, or ability to survive in non-fictional worlds.
Which means that â
Leaving aside for a moment that âemancipationâ implies you just sold someone into slavery, you are violating the shit out of the people-as-things rule of ethics by creating a child to use as a political lever, which sits about as well with the modal Imperial as child soldiers, child forced-labor, and/or assorted other things starting with âchildâ that are Not Done in civilized societies.
This is a situation where you may have good ends, but your means will get you sent directly to the lethal chamber. Do not pass go. Do not collect Es. 288.
As a side note, I generally assumed an early conversation along the lines of this:
âTarpit of Never-Ending Pain would like to come down for a shopping trip.â
âThatâs an⌠unusual name, and whatâs the problem?â
âSheâs the mind of an interdictor cruiser, and sheâd like to be sure her sophont rights will be appropriately respected by local authorities.â
The proper disclaimers and risk/benefit profiles were fully disclosed. And then the executives overruled the lawyers, as so often happens out hereâŚ.
The first principles of the contract are very clearly stated in the profile to be the improvement of Terran-Accord relations, and all actions are to be conducted in that context. Entelechy was not falsified. Finessed, but not falsified.
Read on, sir. Not quite as negligent as I inadvertently implied. But yeah, this is going to fall in a morally grey zone by Imperial standards.
I meant to imply as much by referring to vem as a citizen-intendant.
Blast this imprecise language. That was not meant to be personal as in person, the emancipation of the individual sophont, but as in persona, or rather personae, the personae in question being those of the remaining population of Duckburg. Because ve misses his kith and kin, fictionals though they may be, and as much as ve enjoys the full sophonce and far greater opportunities of the wider reality.
Oh come come now! You canât accuse us of not providing the very best accelerated hardware for maturation and personal development that a SIG of means could get out to the Beyond. None of this politicking happens before ve is a fully mature digisapience. I swear, the very thought!
Do eldrae have fainting couches?
Native digisophonts, should have said. Force majeure not necessarily winning hearts and minds, donchano.
Well, we had another Thanksgiving with our Imperial neighbors.
After last year, hereâs how I figured it-
Figure each Imperial is about 2.2-2.5 people (all the augmentations are calorie intensive). Cook accordingly.
Except for dessert. I pretty much budgeted one whole 16â pie for four Imperials. Bought eight from Costco. And didnât have any dessert leftovers.
Making out-of-the-package saves time, but they can tell. Imperials find it harder to tell when you do things like add fresh spices and brighten minced celery and onions and garlic and add it to your stuffing mix.
They will get hammered on the good booze pretty quick. And get sober even quicker.
We baked five turkeys across three ovens and two deep-friers on the block. Everything worked out right. Sally (the beep) had the best, but mine was popular as well.
âŚit is possible to egg on Imperial children. Bought a spare fire extinguisher for a reason.
A Charlie Brown Christmas is still the most popular after-dinner program, along with The Wizard of Oz. Minus the Imperial cultural commentary.
Theyâre great people to have over, better than Aunt Helen and her husband (who have clearly contracted Martian Brain Fungus and a terminal case of TDS) and start sharing their points very vigorously after the second scotch.
Black Friday sales were very interesting as wellâŚ